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    Quote Originally Posted by James Smith View Post
    As exceptionally talented and classy as Asafa is and always has been it really is a shame that he doesn't already have a few Golds (either by way of the World Championships or Olympics) from years past. In so many ways his form is a pristine model of technical excellence so it's unfortunate that we are not able to attach individual Gold medal performances to his ability despite the fact that he'll have the +100 sub 10sec record; which, just might outlast Bolt's 100m record.
    For the first time in a very long time, Powell struggled to dip under 10 this year. I hope he can get 3 more. How many more races does he have this year?

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    If we go back to just last year how did his Powell 9.81 differ from his personal best of 9.72(set 7years ago in 2008). It was only the frequency and top speed which seems down, looking at his 9.81 in Paris. Also he was doing that 9.81 in the same amount of steps(44), but off a seemingly weaker slower start and seemingly weaker mid race top speed(slightly slower frequency). I say asafa Powell will get 130s sub 10 before he retires.

    I think really we don't know about half the injuries these speed merchants carry, and how they limit them to speed training, top speed mechanics, accelerations, speed endurance, whatever. Some of these dudes could just push through the pain and not increase injury to area, or maybe they just shift the stress to other areas of body at there own desire. Remember back when Franno(Steven Francis)was saying if you have a cut you can't feel the injury. There's a lot of labourers/contractors in the blue collar world who are constantly banging there knees or being reckless and stabbing or cutting themselves. Maybe it's the bodies design to be whipped and cut by branches in the bush lol.

    Look at Gatlin, injured his ankle in november(was it), then I thought he said he had to let it heal for 3months. For his elite frame that's along time. Most uninformed non elite novice sprinters(whatever) would prob just still train twice, thrice a week lol.

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    Re: 2016 races

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    go kim go. gotta love it

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    Re: 2016 races

    Quote Originally Posted by James Smith View Post
    As exceptionally talented and classy as Asafa is and always has been it really is a shame that he doesn't already have a few Golds (either by way of the World Championships or Olympics) from years past. In so many ways his form is a pristine model of technical excellence so it's unfortunate that we are not able to attach individual Gold medal performances to his ability despite the fact that he'll have the +100 sub 10sec record; which, just might outlast Bolt's 100m record.
    well asafa is one of the highest paid sprinters. 6.5 mill is not too shabby

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    Re: 2016 races

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    well asafa is one of the highest paid sprinters. 6.5 mill is not too shabby
    True and well deserved, however, net worth is a distant topic from the symbolic value of an individual gold.

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    True and well deserved, however, net worth is a distant topic from the symbolic value of an individual gold.
    You can have the gold. I'll take the $6.5 mil.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lkh View Post
    You can have the gold. I'll take the $6.5 mil.
    How bout preparing such that he realized his true potential at all those major competitions when he didn't. Then he'd have both.

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    How bout preparing such that he realized his true potential at all those major competitions when he didn't. Then he'd have both.
    Charlie of course hated this topic, but in the years before Bolt, Asafa himself said that he "panicked."

    2003 DQFS
    2004 only 5th
    2005 groin injury
    2006 no outdoor championships
    2007 Tysonphobia
    2008-on Bolt

    One of those years, he damaged himself doing negatives in the gym and had to take a bunch of time off from damaging his pecs as I recall. Another of those years, Charlie made the statement that Asafa "spent his wad in the prelims" (2007?).

    You could, of course, say that Gatlin panicked in the finals last year, and that he "spent his wad in the prelims". Asafa doesn't have any ownership of the matter. When YOU are the WR holder, I don't understand why you would fear anyone else: Just go out and run your race, and dare everyone else to stay with you (until the emergence of Bolt). When you are the WR holder, YOU don't have any reason to "make a statement" in the prelims. But Asafa really never did respond with the best of his abilities in a championship format.

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    Re: 2016 races

    Quote Originally Posted by lkh View Post
    Charlie of course hated this topic, but in the years before Bolt, Asafa himself said that he "panicked."

    2003 DQFS
    2004 only 5th
    2005 groin injury
    2006 no outdoor championships
    2007 Tysonphobia
    2008-on Bolt

    One of those years, he damaged himself doing negatives in the gym and had to take a bunch of time off from damaging his pecs as I recall. Another of those years, Charlie made the statement that Asafa "spent his wad in the prelims" (2007?).

    You could, of course, say that Gatlin panicked in the finals last year, and that he "spent his wad in the prelims". Asafa doesn't have any ownership of the matter. When YOU are the WR holder, I don't understand why you would fear anyone else: Just go out and run your race, and dare everyone else to stay with you (until the emergence of Bolt). When you are the WR holder, YOU don't have any reason to "make a statement" in the prelims. But Asafa really never did respond with the best of his abilities in a championship format.
    Indeed, I remember the discussions we had on the matter. Charlie was very much a proponent of optimal training being synonymous with all the psychological preparation an athlete needs.

    I maintain a different position, however. It has been my experience that the majority of individual, team, combat sports, and (surprising to many people) military special operations, not only leave much to question regarding what is actually done, or not done, in training; in addition, have little to no direction in the area of psychological preparation apart from what can be accomplished through physical training.

    One many observe the emergence of specialty positions (mental skills specialist, psychological skills specialist, cognitive skills specialist, sport psychologist...) related to various sport and military realms; however, it continues to be my experience that, similar to most coaches, these professionals are also victims of misdirected and/or misguided education.

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