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    Re: Andre DeGrasse to Altis

    Quote Originally Posted by Balance View Post
    This is no knock on Caryl Smith-Gilbert but do you realize that Andre practically got off the bus in LA and on the first day of practice with no training or preparation did a flying 30m at a WC level?
    maybe she was testing him?......glad he didnt pull a ham

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    Yes, of course she was testing him. What I meant was...Translation = MONSTER Talent on her hands.
    Re Pull
    Nah, she is a good coach..how many Coaches wouldn't believe what they saw timing wise though? and say
    Do another...and another...Pull.

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    1. I want to see other coaches websites where they tell there story. You know, the entire full story from beginning to now story. I'd be interested in that.

    2. How much do we really know? I keep telling my son. Just because it's a video of what ever we don't know for sure what people are doing in their training.

    3. Races, results and records for the most part 100 percent of the time count for a great deal. ( Okay I did hear a story recently about an Australian coach who was bringing a fake tape measure to the track to get someone qualified for the Olympics at a meet. I thought I had heard a lot but that story did surprise me)

    4. It's incredible to have talent such as what appears to be the case with DeGrasse. Time will give us all much more information about his longevity and ability to produce year after year.

    5. I'd prefer not be skeptical about ALTIS but money making appears to be at the heart of this organization.( if anyone has more specific info i'd love to hear it) Bravo I say from one perspective. I more than anyone think that making money is important for each person, coach and athlete. I want to make the point that I have no specific information regarding Altis so maybe I should keep my mouth shut. We are able to conclude thus far that this location/ organization appears to be drawing a lot of interest. Is Altis a place to develop athletes, inherit established talent or are they the purveyors of providing services for those who can afford these services? I did not enjoy hearing the recent story about one of our fellow Canadians going there who has no food, can't pay rent but feels the need to be there. Not every male or female sprinter/ athlete is perverse enough to run a 1 900 Porn website to finance their dream to win the mens 100 meters.

    6. Caryl Smith Gilbert was an athlete of accomplishment and while she has shown the world paper plan this doesn't mean her program tells the entire story. Clearly she did a great job by all accounts for the limited time she advised him.

    7. I've yet to hear the completed version of a story I recently was being told..., my conversation was interrupted but it went something to the effect that our darling male sprinter whom we are all currently fawning over ( myself included) treated Ms. Gilbert Smith badly when leaving USC. I hope this has not been the case.

    8. Thanks Lkh for posting some comments from what appears to be a conversation you may have had with Mr. Pfaff. I asked Pfaff for a interview for my blog and he refused.
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    Re: Andre DeGrasse to Altis

    Puma forced that change of coaches. I was told he did not want to leave CSG.

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    Re: Andre DeGrasse to Altis

    Quote Originally Posted by Pioneer View Post
    Puma forced that change of coaches. I was told he did not want to leave CSG.
    Forced or encouraged to look into them? and he liked what he saw/felt.

    We shall see.

    Ange,

    Funny you bring this up at this moment-

    "1....the entire full story from beginning to now story.

    2. How much do we really know? I keep telling my son. Just because it's a video of what ever we don't know for sure what people are doing in their training."


    I just drafted an email to my son's Baseball Coach about what I have done with him, what works what doesn't and how we can work together...he was yelling at my son as well as the other kids in practice last week and every parent seemed scared of him. So every time he yelled at the players I corrected him on something he did not do right. Although he has great baseball knowledge he clearly needed me to step in. at least, that is how I saw it lol.. His Asst who Coaches HS ball didn't appreciate it at first but they knew I was right and that I only do it b/c the kids deserve it. He is much calmer now and we are all working together. It will take work for it to be this smooth all season but I am in this for the long haul.

    Ok...back to Track.

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    Re: Andre DeGrasse to Altis

    Forced to move to a professional only coach and away from a collegiate coach who had school/team responsibilities.

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    Re: Andre DeGrasse to Altis

    Quote Originally Posted by Pioneer View Post
    Forced to move to a professional only coach and away from a collegiate coach who had school/team responsibilities.
    i have a hard time believing that he couldnt make demands if they want him to sign, such as same coach, and pay for his tuition for one more semester or so, to graduate. Theres room for that when you're that popular of a client that they'd pay that much money for you.

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    The other side of that is if he's getting paid a lot more from PUMA than other potential suitors, he might feel forced to give in to some of their demands and it did come down to PUMA wanting him to be with a coach of professional athletes only.

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    Re: Andre DeGrasse to Altis

    Balance, how old is your son? I hope you continue to make inroads with the coach for the sake of your son, for you and for the coaches own development. You might sell him on some of this content and sell him on the idea that by using enlightened ideas ( Charlie did not invent his ideas per say but he practiced what he learned from many and knew enough to grow his ideas and he did create something cool) his team will dominate. ( appeal to the coach for him to gain power . It sounds like me might want and need power to feel good.

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    Re: Andre DeGrasse to Altis

    Quote Originally Posted by bmarcho1 View Post
    i have a hard time believing that he couldnt make demands if they want him to sign, such as same coach, and pay for his tuition for one more semester or so, to graduate. Theres room for that when you're that popular of a client that they'd pay that much money for you.
    Good idea but you have to have a good business head and some experience and parents that are on board. He would have had to have all that or some of that. This was serious money and PUMA is a big corporate deal and I would be surprised if he had a lawyer negotiate or a proper agent to deal with any of this. Track is not an empowered sport I am afraid to report. The things that go on in Track are not the same adventures that go on in Skiing for example. For example. As good a all of CF's kids were NOT once was there a moment when someone said oh gee whiz I am going to through a couple hundred K towards this and he / she can wear my company's logo in return. One of my son's buddies' is a skier. I have a big bias towards what I call rich kid sports. Tennis, golf, skiing. The kid is good and he has one of the dad's ( not his own dad) sponsoring his pursuit in skiing. This would not ever happen in track. In Europe you would have the support of the club or country or town.

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