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    Re: Experiment in progress.

    Quote Originally Posted by Flash View Post
    Try this drill. Mark off about 10m. Start lying down in a pushup position or on your side or back. On command from a training partner or just on your own initiative, scramble to your feet and run toward the marker. Don't go full out, just 80% effort. The chaos from scrambling to your feet keeps you from thinking too much about your movements. Just relax and get there. Do a couple sets of 10 with walk back recovery.

    Part of your problem might be a simple lack of strength. You might not have enough strength at this point to properly extend your body over the ground. It will come. Generally, the younger you are and the earlier in your training you are, the less you need to emphasize the early stages of the race anyway. That's where you get the lowest return from your efforts. Don't ignore it completely, but don't get too hung up on it either. Over the long term your training emphasis should start at the end of the race and work backwards. That's where a lot of people go wrong, including yours truly.
    I know the drill and spent a lot of time practicing it until I got this nerve injury I have now. On the videos I have, I seem to extend well on the first few steps, but lose rhythm and become awkward as I transition to more upright technique. It's just that in the first few steps you start with more of lean because your hips are in anterior pelvic tilt, and then it becomes more neutral as you become more upright. Going upright and pelvis going neutral has to go together harmoneously, but for me they don't occur together. It's just very difficult rhythm issue.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RB34 View Post
    What do mean Altis is copy paste?
    don't wanna hi-jack the thread, I mean in the sense of the social posts etc, Ive seen and heard so many athletes who now just want to do wickets as that's what they see only the big guys doing etc

    Showing the 10% and people thinking that's 90% and not wanting to do the hard work that's all

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    Quote Originally Posted by a-j View Post
    don't wanna hi-jack the thread, I mean in the sense of the social posts etc, Ive seen and heard so many athletes who now just want to do wickets as that's what they see only the big guys doing etc

    Showing the 10% and people thinking that's 90% and not wanting to do the hard work that's all
    Totally agree.
    Had an exactly situation as you have described above.
    Guys have been sending me instagram videos, "coach?, I can do this, we should do that, bla bla bla" and not only youngsters but senior athletes as well.
    I have to admit that sometimes I have let them do it, elements that I know for sure that won't work for the athletes that I coach, so that those element can backfire in their face and bring them back to planet earth. Time to time they have come up with some useful stuff, rarely, never mobility and flexibility, lol.

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    Quote Originally Posted by wermouth View Post
    Totally agree.
    Had an exactly situation as you have described above.
    Just finished replying to a-j, pressed submit and got a message from one of athletes, "Coach, look what they are doing in altis" WTF?!!!

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    Re: Experiment in progress.

    Quote Originally Posted by kwave View Post
    I know the drill and spent a lot of time practicing it until I got this nerve injury I have now. On the videos I have, I seem to extend well on the first few steps, but lose rhythm and become awkward as I transition to more upright technique. It's just that in the first few steps you start with more of lean because your hips are in anterior pelvic tilt, and then it becomes more neutral as you become more upright. Going upright and pelvis going neutral has to go together harmoneously, but for me they don't occur together. It's just very difficult rhythm issue.
    It's sounds like a general strength issue. I assume you don't have a coach. So, my advice is to get away from it for a while and work on other elements for the time being where you'll get better results.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Flash View Post
    It's sounds like a general strength issue. I assume you don't have a coach. So, my advice is to get away from it for a while and work on other elements for the time being where you'll get better results.
    I do now, but not back when I got this injury. I am focusing on other elements due to injury anyways.

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    Quote Originally Posted by wermouth View Post
    Just finished replying to a-j, pressed submit and got a message from one of athletes, "Coach, look what they are doing in altis" WTF?!!!
    Wickets. Ugh. I can't even count the number of times I've heard about using wickets over this past season. A coach said that I looked like I was over-striding and that I should look into wickets to correct the issue. Another athlete told me that he was going to address a supposed swing phase issue with wickets. Add that to the Kelly Starret influence of further beating up sore areas by jamming lacrosse balls into the tissue instead of treating the body on the whole and working around the specific area first.

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    Speaking of Atlis. My therapist works with a few pro athletes. Last year at the JA trials he was telling me about a atlis athlete who arrived at the trials all jacked up. After she didnt make the team she let him work on her. He said her body was all out of alignment, Ham jacked up, hips off. After he finished the next day she said she hadn't felt that good in months. She said atlis therapist where not getting the job done. He said she called him with the atlis people on the phone trying to get him to explain what he did. lol

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    When the idea of monetization meets performance something gets lost.

    Or then you have the NFL teams like New England who strike the balance.

    Track is not there yet. Track doesn't have the depth of organization yet or backing.

    It's all about the individual in track and so you have small one off type situations but the system is not really a system yet.

    And some countries love the deterioration of track in all most places of the planet because........ The notion of politics plays such a key role in track because the athletes are not united.

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    And if the athletes don't stick together therapists and coaches are going to be a byproduct of the system or lack off.

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