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    Re: First outdoor meet of the year.

    Be careful napping so close to a race.

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    Re: First outdoor meet of the year.

    Quote Originally Posted by rich121 View Post
    ...shortly after the race, she was already putting the disappointment behind her and excited to talk/plan training for summer track and talking about what we were going to do for next seasons training...
    That's always encouraging. Best of fortunes this summer.

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    Re: First outdoor meet of the year.

    First summer meet, 'Border Duel', with many of the top High School athletes in the northwest. Hi quality meet, beautiful warm, sunny day.

    This was a long drive and we left at 6:30am and arrived at 11:30am, with multiple stops to stretch and move around.

    K's events were the 100m, ran at 95% and used as a warm-up for the 400m which was 25 minutes later and the 200m, which was about an hour after the 400m.

    100m: 13.37 -2.3 headwind
    200m: 27.32 +3.4 tailwind
    400m: 1:00.54

    K is very frustrated. She said she felt lethargic, legs felt tired both before and after running in the events and her biggest complaint is again, that her legs feel 'mushy' and without power.

    We made this same trip 2 years ago, the same drive, and in fact did not stop to stretch and she ran a lifetime PR in the 400m that day of 59.47.

    I had thought that this lack of speed/power was due to her going 'flat' from an extended taper and change in her lifting, but this is really getting extreme... K did not run anything near this slow this year.

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    Re: First outdoor meet of the year.

    Rich, You already listed one inconsistency in that this time there were multiple loosening up stops during the road trip. Let's see if there are more:
    1. K has already PR'd this year. Did she set PR's leading up to this meet 2 years ago?
    2. She ran the 100, 200, 400 this year, did she run the 100 and 200m en route to her PR in the 400 two years ago?
    3. What did her taper and training/competition weeks leading up to this meet two years ago look like compared to the weeks leading up to the meet this year?
    4. I recall you stating that there is no true speed work currently in her training. How much speed work was in her training two years ago?
    5. How many meets did she compete in prior to her PB two years and how many meets has it been so far this year?

    No doubt you will find your answer within.

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    Re: First outdoor meet of the year.

    Plyos?

    What's the change in her lifting??

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    Re: First outdoor meet of the year.

    Rich, You already listed one inconsistency in that this time there were multiple loosening up stops during the road trip. Let's see if there are more:
    ***I was reminded that we did make a couple stops 2 years ago, so was similar.

    1. K has already PR'd this year. Did she set PR's leading up to this meet 2 years ago?
    ***Yes, leading up to the Final at the Regional meet, K had PR'd most every meet in the 400m. But, she was consistently getting slower in the 100/200m, slower that she had ran in Junior High.

    2. She ran the 100, 200, 400 this year, did she run the 100 and 200m en route to her PR in the 400 two years ago?
    *** Yes, similar seasons.

    3. What did her taper and training/competition weeks leading up to this meet two years ago look like compared to the weeks leading up to the meet this year?
    *** 2 years ago they had an additional 'Regional' meet the week following the District meet that they do not have now, due to the District restructuring. Like the State meet, the 400m was split into a final and semi-final at the Regional meet. K PR'd 2 years ago all the way up to the final 400m race of the Regional meet, where she went flat and ran .72s slower than in the semi-final the day previous, partially I believe, because of lack of proper support for recovery...(very late dinner, very late bed, had to get up early following morning)
    The taper 2 years ago was approximately a week shorter as this season, as K did not go to State that season.
    2 years ago, since K did not go to State, I had 2 weeks to train her before this meet, this year, 1 week.

    4. I recall you stating that there is no true speed work currently in her training. How much speed work was in her training two years ago?
    *** Same

    5. How many meets did she compete in prior to her PB two years and how many meets has it been so far this year?
    *** The same, she missed one meet 2 years ago and this season on May 3 she strained a hamstring and missed almost 2 weeks of full practice. She had 3 days completely off, with a little more than a week of light practice. She obviously missed the rest of the meet she injured herself in, plus the meet the following week. The next competition she was in was on May 15.

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    Re: First outdoor meet of the year.

    2012 Outdoor Season - 9th Grade
    100 Meters
    (1) 13.66a FS F Mar 17
    (5) * 13.62a V F Mar 24

    (9) 13.92a V F Apr 19

    200 Meters
    (2) 27.30a V F Mar 17
    (8) 27.99 V F Apr 7
    (7) 28.55a V F Apr 19
    (4) 28.42a V F Apr 26
    (5) 28.18a V F May 3

    300 Meters
    (2) 45.17a V F Mar 10

    400 Meters
    (1) 1:01.17a FS F Apr 7
    (2) * 1:00.70a V F Apr 26
    (22) 1:02.82a V F Apr 28
    (2) * 1:00.40a V F May 3
    (5) * 1:00.35a V F May 11
    (5) * 59.92a 4A P May 19

    (8) 1:01.64a 4A F May 19
    (10) * 59.47a V F Jun 2

    4x100 Relay
    (1) 55.43a FS F Mar 17
    (1) 52.80a V F Mar 24 y
    (5) 52.97a V F Apr 7
    (34) 52.45a V F Apr 14
    (3) 52.44a V F Apr 19
    (4) 53.07a V F Apr 26
    16 52.30a V P Apr 28
    (3) 52.23a V F May 3
    (5) 51.96a V F May 11

    4x200 Relay
    (7) 1:59.58a V F Mar 24
    (3) 1:54.41a V F Apr 7

    4x400 Relay
    (2) 4:23.50a V F Mar 10
    (3) 4:22.18a V F Mar 24 a
    (7) 4:12.65a V F Apr 14
    (1) 4:07.12a V F Apr 19
    (1) 4:14.37a V F Apr 26
    (8) 4:12.17a V F Apr 28
    (1) 4:15.64a V F May 3
    DQ V F May 11

    DMR 1200-400-800-1600m
    (13) 13:26.39a V F Apr 14

    Season Records

    100 Meters
    2012 Outdoor 9 13.62a
    2014 Outdoor 11 12.90a

    200 Meters
    2012 Outdoor 9 27.30a
    2014 Outdoor 11 26.27a

    300 Meters
    2012 Outdoor 9 45.17a
    2014 Outdoor 11 43.09a

    400 Meters
    2012 Outdoor 9 59.47a
    2014 Outdoor 11 57.70

    300m Hurdles - 30"
    2014 Outdoor 11 49.24a

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    Re: First outdoor meet of the year.

    Ok, so void of a more detailed diagnostic examination of all possible factors it seems clear that the most significant culprits are the 2 weeks you had to train K for the meet two years ago and the down time this year resultant of the hamstring pull.

    Also, we mustn't forget that performance variability is clearly more of a factor with the younger athlete to due inconsistencies in overall sport form- particularly in the longer sprints in which gradations in the execution of race strategy may vary wildly from race to race based upon many factors that will diminish over time.

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    Re: First outdoor meet of the year.

    2014 Outdoor Season - 11th Grade


    100 Meters

    (1) 12.90a 2.4 V F Apr 24
    (18) 13.37a -2.3 V F June 7


    200 Meters

    (2) 27.10a V F Mar 22 .
    (1) 27.62a JV F Apr 17
    (1) * 26.27a 2.6 V F Apr 24 .
    (3) 26.86a V F Apr 30 .
    (3) 26.40a 4A F May 24 District 6 4A Champion...
    (12) 27.32a 3.4 V F Jun 7


    300 Meters

    (1) 43.09a V F Mar 15 Jamboree


    400 Meters

    (1) 59.90a V F Apr 12 Invitational
    (6) * 59.23a V F Apr 19 Invitational
    (2) * 58.20a V F Apr 26
    (2) 58.90a V F Apr 30 .
    (1) * 58.14a V F May 15 .
    (2) * 57.70 4A F May 24 District 6 4A Champion...
    (13) 59.37a 4A P May 31 4A, 3A & 2A State Cham...
    (9) 1:00.54a V F Jun 7


    300m Hurdles - 30"

    (1) 49.24a JV F Apr 17


    4x100 Relay

    (2) 54.39a V F Mar 22
    (6) 53.37a V F Apr 12
    (28) 53.12a V F Apr 19
    (1) 53.03a V F Apr 24
    (9) 52.89a V F Apr 26
    (1) 51.44a V F Apr 30
    DNS V F May 3
    (2) 52.39a V F May 15
    (3) 50.37 4A F May 24


    4x200 Relay

    (21) 1:51.66a V F May 3
    (2) 1:47.23a 4A F May 24
    (15) 1:48.33a 4A P May 31


    4x400 Relay

    (1) 4:18.99a V F Mar 15
    (2) 4:23.44a V F Mar 22
    (7) 4:24.98a V F Apr 12
    (28) 4:24.66a V F Apr 19
    (3) 4:18.22a V F Apr 26
    (2) 4:13.15a V F Apr 30
    (2) 4:25.08a V F May 15

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    Re: First outdoor meet of the year.

    Quote Originally Posted by James Smith View Post
    Ok, so void of a more detailed diagnostic examination of all possible factors it seems clear that the most significant culprits are the 2 weeks you had to train K for the meet two years ago and the down time this year resultant of the hamstring pull.

    Also, we mustn't forget that performance variability is clearly more of a factor with the younger athlete to due inconsistencies in overall sport form- particularly in the longer sprints in which gradations in the execution of race strategy may vary wildly from race to race based upon many factors that will diminish over time.
    Hopefully her strength returns within a couple weeks for the USATF championships.
    This has her worried and K is wanting to move up to the 800m and modify her training for 400/800m.

    This has been something we have talked about over the past several years, but I wanted her to train shorter distance speed first, and she loves running the sprints.
    She is a more natural mid-distance runner though.
    In 8th grade not during track season and not in training, the track coach went out during lunch and timed K running the 600m to try and beat the school record, which K did, she ran 1:37.

    During 9th and 10th grade during the fall she ran cross country and did very well, on her varsity team placing 5th at State both years.
    But due to serious issues, and because it effected her shorter distance running, she stopped running cross country and wanted to concentrate on the sprints.

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