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    One Step Forward and 2 back.....

    Hi guys, I haven't been on here in a while...

    I'm just going to cut to the chase.... In so many words, I'm hurt, and I'm hurt pretty bad... About 3 days ago I was doing 30M sprints and when I went to push off my left leg, I felt something below my calf give out (right above ankle) and I could no longer run at all. My foot and ankle area is swollen and I walk with a limp.. It was the most terrifying feeling I have ever had in my life that was self inflicted, but surprisingly, I hardly have any pain. The pain is 2 on a scale of 1-10, and if I don't move my foot at all it's 0.

    I know what I did wrong: 1. Not enough regeneration (i.e Massage). 2. I got very strong in a short period if time (I set new weight lifting records in the gym, almost doing 315 on INCLINE bench). 3. I did a B*ll***s 15 warm up.....

    Doing light research, I'm pretty sure I tore my Achilles tendon. Thankfully, I did not do a complete separation because I can still move my foot in all directions in addition to the fact that I don't have insurance or $$$$$ for surgery. Lucky, I'm self employed so i can set my own hours.


    I'm only 3 days in now and I can feel my leg getting better... I'm doing self massage, lots of Ice, EMS and rest. I hoping I can start walking normally by next week because I have to get back to work..

    Anyhow, at my age (33) this might be a injury that takes me out of the 100m/200. If that's the case, I'm moving back up to the 400m....


    Man I'm kind of sad.... Tearing tendons is serious business as they don't grow back as quickly muscles do. I know power lifters tear pecs all the time and some of those guys get back into it, but many don't. There is this one guy in my gym who tore his pec and now years later he walks around really sad because he can't bench the 400lbs he use to and just sticks to the cable machines.

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    Re: One Step Forward and 2 back.....

    Getting strong is fun. Getting fast is a great deal of fun also but the results generally are not as quick and you don't get to see the results as easily. I bet the reason you felt the need to get stronger so fast without paying more attention to how to balance the lifting with your running was you were not happy with your speed progress?
    I would buy a paraffin wax bath asap to manage the scar tissue. You will not hurt yourself assuming the worst until you get pictures of the actual injury.
    I am sorry this happened to you.
    Find out anything and everything you can but work around it as much as you can. The progress in sport injury is mind blowing but you need to find it and access it to the best of your abilities.

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    I would not use any type of heat at this time as there is sure to be some inflammation. My guess would be a torn achilles tendon as well given your description. It may be torn all the way still because there are several other muscles around the ankle that help to move in all directions (ant. tibialis, post. tibialis, peroneals, etc.) You need to go to a doctor and get it tested. You need to know exactly what you are dealing with before trying to manage it.

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    Re: One Step Forward and 2 back.....

    Quote Originally Posted by 100m001 View Post
    Hi guys, I haven't been on here in a while...

    I'm just going to cut to the chase.... In so many words, I'm hurt, and I'm hurt pretty bad... About 3 days ago I was doing 30M sprints and when I went to push off my left leg, I felt something below my calf give out (right above ankle) and I could no longer run at all. My foot and ankle area is swollen and I walk with a limp.. It was the most terrifying feeling I have ever had in my life that was self inflicted, but surprisingly, I hardly have any pain. The pain is 2 on a scale of 1-10, and if I don't move my foot at all it's 0.

    I know what I did wrong: 1. Not enough regeneration (i.e Massage). 2. I got very strong in a short period if time (I set new weight lifting records in the gym, almost doing 315 on INCLINE bench). 3. I did a B*ll***s 15 warm up.....

    Doing light research, I'm pretty sure I tore my Achilles tendon. Thankfully, I did not do a complete separation because I can still move my foot in all directions in addition to the fact that I don't have insurance or $$$$$ for surgery. Lucky, I'm self employed so i can set my own hours.


    I'm only 3 days in now and I can feel my leg getting better... I'm doing self massage, lots of Ice, EMS and rest. I hoping I can start walking normally by next week because I have to get back to work..

    Anyhow, at my age (33) this might be a injury that takes me out of the 100m/200. If that's the case, I'm moving back up to the 400m....


    Man I'm kind of sad.... Tearing tendons is serious business as they don't grow back as quickly muscles do. I know power lifters tear pecs all the time and some of those guys get back into it, but many don't. There is this one guy in my gym who tore his pec and now years later he walks around really sad because he can't bench the 400lbs he use to and just sticks to the cable machines.
    This is really bad news- sorry to hear you're injured. Can you get an MRI without spending a fortune?

    I've always been curious about hot wax treatments that were mentioned in CFTS by Waldemar.

    I have received a lot of help from Angela over the past couple of years, and her advice has always been both astoundingly timely and tremendously helpful. If Angela says to do a paraffin wax treatment, I'd listen carefully.

    Angela, could you expand on when paraffin wax treatments are considered useful and how often they should be used? Should they only be used during an injury? Can they be used along with massage, hot / cold showers for general maintenance, or not? This is something that a lot of us are probably not that clear on.

    With regard to this particular injury, once you have a handle on how severe the tear is, perhaps you can consider some alternatives to surgery. I know of one athlete who had an 80% tear and opted for PRP injections instead of surgery- it may actually be less expensive as well. She is back functioning at 100% right now. PRP can be very effective for low blood-flow areas in many cases. One of my athletes recently had this done- shoot me a PM if you'd like to discuss further.

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    Re: One Step Forward and 2 back.....

    Quote Originally Posted by CLIMBON View Post
    I would not use any type of heat at this time as there is sure to be some inflammation. My guess would be a torn achilles tendon as well given your description. It may be torn all the way still because there are several other muscles around the ankle that help to move in all directions (ant. tibialis, post. tibialis, peroneals, etc.) You need to go to a doctor and get it tested. You need to know exactly what you are dealing with before trying to manage it.
    Thank you for the reply... I'm getting better each day. The swelling is going down and I notice I have small bruise on the back of my leg right above the ankle where the pain is concentrated the most. The only major problem is that I feel extreme tightness from my achilles tendon, once the tightness goes away, I know I will be able to walk normally again.

    As far as getting tested. My business recently landed a 4k contact, so I'm sure I can at least use some of that money to get the proper testing done.

    BTW, I can move my injured foot in all directions with no pain or problem. It's only when I need to walk, I have such tightness that I have to limp.

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    Re: One Step Forward and 2 back.....

    Quote Originally Posted by Angela Coon View Post
    Getting strong is fun. Getting fast is a great deal of fun also but the results generally are not as quick and you don't get to see the results as easily. I bet the reason you felt the need to get stronger so fast without paying more attention to how to balance the lifting with your running was you were not happy with your speed progress?
    You're right. Also, I'm 33 and I feel like I'm running out of time. I run for the love of it, but it would be nice if I could run for a season or two against the best in the world.

    Quote Originally Posted by Angela Coon View Post
    I would buy a paraffin wax bath asap to manage the scar tissue. You will not hurt yourself assuming the worst until you get pictures of the actual injury.
    I am sorry this happened to you.
    Find out anything and everything you can but work around it as much as you can. The progress in sport injury is mind blowing but you need to find it and access it to the best of your abilities.
    Yes Ma'am. Thank you.

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    Re: One Step Forward and 2 back.....

    Quote Originally Posted by T-Slow View Post
    This is really bad news- sorry to hear you're injured. Can you get an MRI without spending a fortune?

    I've always been curious about hot wax treatments that were mentioned in CFTS by Waldemar.

    I have received a lot of help from Angela over the past couple of years, and her advice has always been both astoundingly timely and tremendously helpful. If Angela says to do a paraffin wax treatment, I'd listen carefully.

    Angela, could you expand on when paraffin wax treatments are considered useful and how often they should be used? Should they only be used during an injury? Can they be used along with massage, hot / cold showers for general maintenance, or not? This is something that a lot of us are probably not that clear on.

    With regard to this particular injury, once you have a handle on how severe the tear is, perhaps you can consider some alternatives to surgery. I know of one athlete who had an 80% tear and opted for PRP injections instead of surgery- it may actually be less expensive as well. She is back functioning at 100% right now. PRP can be very effective for low blood-flow areas in many cases. One of my athletes recently had this done- shoot me a PM if you'd like to discuss further.
    Thank you for your reply.

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    Re: One Step Forward and 2 back.....

    When ready rehab it with eccentric calf work.

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    Re: One Step Forward and 2 back.....

    Quote Originally Posted by Sharmer View Post
    When ready rehab it with eccentric calf work.
    What's funny is that I never did any calf work. Always squats or leg presses. I think my legs got too strong for my calf and surrounding structure.

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    Re: One Step Forward and 2 back.....

    Wax is supposed to break down scar tissue by providing moist , deep heat specifically to tendons. I don't think using paraffin is a secret for it's use in injury treatment.
    Years ago I was in clinic and met a young guy who had both his feet crushed by a machine at his family's business. His feet were very seriously injured. As I was telling him about the wax he quickly replied he had already bought a paraffin bath and was using it multiple times a day and it was making a huge difference for him.
    I remember going to Italy in the Spring of 1988. We were coming back from a meet in Sestriere ( Italy). At this facility I met Mennea who was jogging around the track doing a workout. There were whirlpools and cold dunk tanks and paraffin tanks as well.
    That was a long time ago now and this kind of information is not new. People are reluctant to accept easy methods of healing or treatment in favor of treatments where cost is prohibitive.

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