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    Re: Technical advice for a young hurdler?

    Here are some recent training videos from 2017.



    I ran 14.20 over 110mh this year.

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    Re: Technical advice for a young hurdler?

    Good work Jccc.
    Looks like you have been working hard.
    Congrats on the improvement on your time as well.
    Indoors will be a bit more interesting this year. Where are they?

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    Re: Technical advice for a young hurdler?

    Quote Originally Posted by Angela Coon View Post
    Good work Jccc.
    Looks like you have been working hard.
    Congrats on the improvement on your time as well.
    Indoors will be a bit more interesting this year. Where are they?
    Windsor for both provincial and national championships! Training is going very well right now

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    Re: Technical advice for a young hurdler?

    I guess Windsor and York are really the only two places to have the facilities and abilities to run OUAA and CIAU.

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    Re: Technical advice for a young hurdler?

    Feb 1, 2018.

    I hope to do these training recaps once a week in this thread, of which was a serious pedagogical tool for me in high school for relying on giants to find out how to train.

    Yesterday in practice I ran a fly 20 time of 2.10 (9.5m/s). Weeks ago I ran a 7.6 in the 60m. People keep telling me I would run faster if a hurdle was placed 13.7m out from the starting line- my best is 8.16 so it's kind of close! People have been saying that my 60m - 60mh translation makes no sense for years, and every year I make the same tired response: I am not that slow! My pb is 7.3 from high school! In my third year of university I didn't even bother to run the 60m because I know the emotional response would be negative. Not until I experienced something that was seriously unknown- I've been studying sprint methodology for some years now, I feel like I know the mechanics, I thought training was going well this year, both sprint and sprint hurdle- in running 7.6 did I actually understand the predicament I was in.

    It turns out that nothing I thought about acceleration was correct. Low heel recovery, long ground contact time were actually important. I was previously just stepping in and out. I am going nowhere! How did I not know I was doing that wrong?? Anyways.

    I've been consuming sprint material obsessively for the past 2 weeks. I feel like I'm starting to get a clue, but then I ran a 1.05s 10m segment. I was wondering- what kind of training was I doing in high school, before I was burdened by all this hyperrational baggage about acceleration, so wrongly perspicacious? I came back on here. And now there are some insights.

    There is a CF forum member that I see in the local track scene often. I ask him, why are you still training? What are you in it for? he said: "i don't think I have run my fastest yet, I know I can do more!" That was inspiring. I think the greatest triumph in life is to find something that you can struggle. I share his struggle: there's something so complex underneath sprinting that's manifested in my sprinting that I hope to uncover completely one day. Like our man, I do want to see what I can run. 10m/s is a goal. 10.5 would require the right training and application. And I think 11 is possible for me. But how to get there? That is precisely what is interesting.

    Our man also generated an insight about the training milieu: I wished this were the early 2000s, where forum boards were exploding with discussion. Nowadays where is the discussion?

    So I hope to do these summaries, for the purpose of clarifying my mind and my methodology. My goal is to be a strength coach with a tilt towards speed/power training. I currently want to be a world-class hurdler. Let's hit it.

    . . .

    On current training:

    Established PBs in 2018 season: 8.20. Every weekend since I am in the collegiate system, I get 2 hurdle runs. My race average for every meet has been 8.26. On Feb 1st today, I feel like I am in a bit of training downslope. Yesterday I slept from 9pm-9am with no problem. This morning when I woke up I was very hungry and ate a lot of toast (lol). I'm watching my reaction to training very carefully. I've spent a lot of time admiring the reaction charts from Bondarchuk, taught by Derek Evely. Though he says this only happens in non-waveload training, I have seen it with myself. If I am correct in my guess, I am a type 3 on the chart, where the reaction is a flatline performance, slight dip, and rapid increase. Watching carefully now.

    At this point most work is already somewhat done. All the training stimulus has been applied in which full recovery will unwind in the next month. There is not much that can be performed right now to positively influence speed. It's just taking the cake out of the oven and cooling it. Factors are just controlling my bodyweight and keep on racing to refine the race model.

    My touchdown times between H3-H4 is around 1.10-1.11 (for 8.30s run). In practice I have hit H3-H4 1.04s with 1.5' spaced in. The transfer between practice and competition has been fascinating to me. There is a pdf I have with PJ's touchdown times. 2.5, 1.09, 1.07, 1.07, 1.07 is what it takes to run a 7.86. I am far off.

    Dan Pfaff's complaints about a 'quantitative paradigm' is correct. As it is easily to be too absorbed with numbers, one forgets to practice the technical event. Current hurdle markers that are trying to be influenced are approach to 1st H, hurdle takeoff, hurdle touchdown.

    https://youtu.be/AInN_PEvxv4
    Last edited by jccc110m; 02-01-2018 at 04:23 PM.

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