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    Re: Front squats vs back squats for athletes

    Quote Originally Posted by RB34 View Post
    I see you have a change of heart now days....
    Maybe. It seems to make more sense for other sports. I have thought it for awhile but I have never tried this (dropping squat or something similar) until recently.

    I am almost positive I was faster when I never really pushed weights, just conservative with it.

    What are your thoughts?

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    Re: Front squats vs back squats for athletes

    Quote Originally Posted by Sharmer View Post
    Recent studies on the Trap bar dead lift demonstrate greater power output than conventional dead lifts. I don't support back squats in the prescription of training programs, I prefer SLDL or low load high rep with hamstrings curls combined with front squats.

    Back squats load the lumbar spine and knee joint far greater than the front squat, number of studies on peak EMG to support this claim.

    There well be exemptions, some athletes anatomy and biomechanics enabled them to back squat safe.
    That is another Great thing I learned over the past 11 years from this website (besides putting a great sprint program in place from the Jump)....IS..What to IGNORE!
    For longer legged males...the 1/2 squat won't work..fine...1/4 squats or something else will work...no problem. No good SPRINT coach is going to change their successful programs just because. They will look like fools changing all the time b/c of all the research coming out.

    CF- If you agree with me that power on the track leads to the rest of the strength expression, the way it is expressed can be different but the capacity relative to body weight may not be so different.

    Gotta go. More later...

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    Re: Front squats vs back squats for athletes

    Quote Originally Posted by lr1400 View Post
    Maybe. It seems to make more sense for other sports. I have thought it for awhile but I have never tried this (dropping squat or something similar) until recently.

    I am almost positive I was faster when I never really pushed weights, just conservative with it.

    What are your thoughts?
    Not sure I would drop sq/bp for long periods of time unless the athlete had injuries/mobility issues.... I found reducing the volume 2-3x1-2 at about 70-75% is enough to allow the body to recover while sprinting fast.... What's your def of pushing the weights vs conservative?

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    Re: Front squats vs back squats for athletes

    Quote Originally Posted by RB34 View Post
    Not sure I would drop sq/bp for long periods of time unless the athlete had injuries/mobility issues.... I found reducing the volume 2-3x1-2 at about 70-75% is enough to allow the body to recover while sprinting fast.... What's your def of pushing the weights vs conservative?
    I am still doing power clean, bench, and either jump squat or stepup occasionally. I will probably try the trapbar dl in a month or so.

    By conservative I was very ho hum about weights, not worrying about if I missed a weight session, not ever going to failure. Not that different that CF advised really.

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    Re: Front squats vs back squats for athletes

    Here is another alternative to back squatting I have used successfully and since it's more quad dominant I pair it with something like RDL or GH raise. I have found it tough especially getting full depth. About 55kg added to the belt is tough for me around 8 reps.
    http://www.t-nation.com/free_online_..._belt_squats_1

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    Re: Front squats vs back squats for athletes

    Quote Originally Posted by Angela Coon View Post
    What are the best Hamstring exercises for Sprinting?
    The best hamstring exercises for sprinting comes from sprinting itself. Speed drills ( or Power Speed Drills) are also effective hamstring exercises for sprinters and runners. The hamstring exercises noted below are supplementary to your speed training.
    Outside of sprinting fast , I wanted to share some insights on Christian Thibaudeau’s T Mag article recommending his “ 7 best hamstring exercises” and how they fit into my training experience as a sprint hurdler.
    Cheers,
    Ange
    Highly valuable. Thanks!

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    Re: Front squats vs back squats for athletes

    trevor, I like the look of those. I think I might try one. my crappy upper back has always held me back with squats. if I squat heavy my back curves and sends tension down my hamstrings for many days after. it's never worth it...

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    Re: Front squats vs back squats for athletes

    Hornblower, one thing I did have to do was search for a decent weight/dip belt. I stand on two 20" boxes and angle them into a V shape.

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