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    Lets see what kind of pressure usoc puts on the iaaf. what happens if bolt gay and powell all fs. I see a riot. We need to make sure that dirty dick diack is the target

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    Quote Originally Posted by kitkat1 View Post
    Diack is a dope. Most of the IAAF professionals were actually happy with the old start rule dating back to 1908. Off the record they would confide this to be fact. I prefer the one break and a warning to the entire field, brought in a few years ago. But no-start is no brains. And gamesmanship will always be part of the game. What about ther Blake Shake? He says he always does that! Why! Kick him out too? Why not just cancel the 100 altogether. Diack back to Senegal where you can rule happily ever after. Sadly while he remains the choice of least controversy for IAAf president, the Council will comply with whatever are his wishes. Including this no-break rule. It stinks.
    The previous rule of one break and a warning to the entire field is unfair. Why entire field should be warned for one unlucky who FSed? Then bring the old rule when every sprinter can FS once, so it's fair, but you know it's not the best choice. Now Bolt FSed and all starts complaining "it's bad for fans, it's bad for entire track and field and so on".If most of the fans sees only Bolt so I think it's media problem while not giving enough attention to other athletes. For sure many fans didn't know who the Blake was. About Blake's Shake, so if he always does that he should get exception rule b/c he always does that and he can't do anything about it? If he always does that so even with the previous FS rule he would be DQied? Please tell me why in swimming this rule isn't a problem?

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    Lets see what kind of pressure usoc puts on the iaaf. what happens if bolt gay and powell all fs. I see a riot. We need to make sure that dirty dick diack is the target
    "Bolt, who had not spoken at length since his disqualification, resisted calling for a change in the false-start rule, which has been under increased scrutiny. Bolt also declined to blame Blake, whose left leg twitched before Boltís false start."

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    Bolt is the darling of IAAF. He is NOT going to criticise them. He and his management know that if they "behave" IAAF will be there for him many years after he retires until the day he dies. Carl Lewis eventually understood that, like Michael Johnson eventually did also. To be embraced by IAAF is a sinecure.
    But that doesn't make the false start rule good for the sport.
    Certainly TV pays the bills so they must be accommodated but athletics is just prostituting itself like some cheap whore rolling over for TV in the present circumstances.
    Either false start rule was preferable to the current situation. But the one-for-the-field meets TV more than halfway.
    If you cannot comprehend what is happening here then lets just agree to disagree.

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    Having walked away from both coaching and officiating at national level I comprehend what is happening, yes I disagree with you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Linas View Post
    Please tell me why in swimming this rule isn't a problem?
    One reason might be that reaction off the blocks has about as much significance in swimming sprints as it does to the final outcome of the track 400m race. That is, no correlation at all. But in a track race that can last as little as 10sec, reaction time can decide medals.

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    While the IAAF legislature is unlikely to be influenced by what is discussed here, in my view, the false start rule must be individual to each sprinter on the track.

    The only reason the rule was created in the first place, and then modified, was due to factors of time and, in my view, last year's modification of the rule was erroneous long before Bolt DQ'd the other day.

    Throwers get X amount of attempts regardless if they foot or sector foul every one, same logic for jumpers; however, they're also lucky if they get enough air time for someone not to miss it if they go to the fridge for a beer.

    As a former HS track coach and huge fan of the sport I'm willing to sit around as long as it takes to reset the field and see a good race and maybe the TV people who are slaves to their cruel masters might be willing to show more than a highlight blip of the field events during the interim.

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    Not sure if I remember correctly, but Charlie preferred either the original rule or the current one, nothing in between. Goes with his training philosophy, no? If someone could confirm it?
    "We are what we repeatedly do. Excellence then, is not an act, but a habit" Aristotle

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nikoluski View Post
    Not sure if I remember correctly, but Charlie preferred either the original rule or the current one, nothing in between. Goes with his training philosophy, no? If someone could confirm it?
    I totally agree with him.

    The rules are there to see that no athlete is given an unfair advantage. Every athlete should be given the same opportunity.

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    Quote Originally Posted by James Smith View Post

    As a former HS track coach and huge fan of the sport I'm willing to sit around as long as it takes to reset the field and see a good race and maybe the TV people who are slaves to their cruel masters might be willing to show more than a highlight blip of the field events during the interim.
    A few years ago in the Modesto Relays there was a 100m with, I think, 3 false starts. The first one they never got around to charging. The second was charged to the field, and the third was an ejection.

    There was a similar situation in US Nationals a few years ago, where some claimed there was a FS by Gatlin that was never charged or called (don't remember which).

    I think I prefer where a guy who does not go around misusing the competition rules, and this could be Lemaitre as well as Bolt or Gay, is simply granted some slack by the refs. In the case this time, they could have said something like "We can't tell if someone else jumped to cause him to FS, so we're not going to charge it."

    I do see that, far more than WC, the Olympics are on a tight schedule and there simply isn't room for what I saw in Modesto, or the more famous case involving Linford.

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