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    Re: Hannah Cunliffe makes front page Seattle Times, and video

    Yes , my bad. 10.99 not 11.99. cheers

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    Re: Hannah Cunliffe makes front page Seattle Times, and video

    Quote Originally Posted by grooster View Post
    Very good points again James,( and makes total sense in theory) though, I do not wish to get into a match to see who can use the biggest words, as I will come off second best, actually, I wouldn't even make the grand final. My only point is that when you change something, you are going to get a different response. That could be a positive response and it could very well be a negative response as well. I think the coach would need to be very careful in changing something where there is still improvement being made.
    Certainly not interested in a word competition grooster, so don't mind me using what I view to be proper language.

    As for the consequence of making a technical change, no doubt there will always be one; however, in this case I believe that the mathematics would demonstrate near certainty as to the intelligible decision making in correcting was is irrefutably dysfunctional.

    As ollie referenced, it's one thing for a female to go from 11.5 to 11.2, another from 11.2 to 11.0, and another from 11.0 to whatever the human perform limits have in store and the room for error minimizes each step along the way. At the most elite levels, then, the only possibility for mechanical dysfunction to coexist with records and championships is when it is supported by extraordinary outputs (ergo Michael Johnson). Even then, it doesn't excuse the dysfunction; however, it does provide the record holder or the champion the confirmation bias to go around misinforming those who will listen.

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    Re: Hannah Cunliffe makes front page Seattle Times, and video

    I must confess that I am a long-retired coach and have not been on this site for a long time. For unknown reasons the last several posts to this thread have appeared in my email inbox. Since HC is from my area, I read them with interest. I have not watched video of her in ages, but it seems that much of the discussion here is about her "soccer-style" arm action. Having coached soccer for many years, I am certainly familiar with that phenomenon and the rotational problems associated with it. And many of the kids I coached in sprinting came from a soccer background. I may be remembering incorrectly but I believe it was Charlie himself who gave the simple, effective cue for curing the elbows-out soccer posture -- "point your thumbs up while sprinting." I never dealt with an athlete at HC's level, but this cue generally worked wonders.

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    Re: Hannah Cunliffe makes front page Seattle Times, and video

    Sub optimal technique is more likely to increase injury risk.
    Eg Method of exiting blocks (as described and compared here) may not be so severe as an injury risk, but is variable interms of speed according to athlete execution. But issues that are rotational or lop sided can be a concern. So there is probably a continuim in terms of sub optimal for generating speed through to little impact on speed but longer term injury risk.
    A younger athlete is more exposed in terms of long term bio mechanic issues but is best placed to fix a technical matter.
    General point i dont consider myself qualified to measure risk in the case of HC.

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    Re: Hannah Cunliffe makes front page Seattle Times, and video

    Hello all,

    I happened to have dinner in Seattle with Mike Cunliffe the week before Hannah ran 10.99, and I can assure you he is well aware of her arm issues.

    It's something that Kevin Tyler (when he coached her at Oklahoma) and Curtis Taylor (who now coaches her at Oregon) are both well aware of as well, so you have to allow that it's not something that has been easy to fix.

    Mike is a very smart and passionate coach who is a big time short-to-long guy. He's got a huge personality and really takes a stand on issues, and it's very interesting to see the success he's had not only with Hannah, but with son Sam who is an ESPN top 40 college basketball recruit.

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    Re: Hannah Cunliffe makes front page Seattle Times, and video

    Quote Originally Posted by T-Slow View Post
    Hello all,

    I happened to have dinner in Seattle with Mike Cunliffe the week before Hannah ran 10.99, and I can assure you he is well aware of her arm issues.

    It's something that Kevin Tyler (when he coached her at Oklahoma) and Curtis Taylor (who now coaches her at Oregon) are both well aware of as well, so you have to allow that it's not something that has been easy to fix.

    Mike is a very smart and passionate coach who is a big time short-to-long guy. He's got a huge personality and really takes a stand on issues, and it's very interesting to see the success he's had not only with Hannah, but with son Sam who is an ESPN top 40 college basketball recruit.
    Why did she leave Oklahoma or should I ask, why didnt she go to oregon in the first place?

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    Re: Hannah Cunliffe makes front page Seattle Times, and video

    Quote Originally Posted by Chris6878 View Post
    Why did she leave Oklahoma or should I ask, why didnt she go to oregon in the first place?
    Kevin Tyler left Oklahoma for ALTIS. Hannah announced that she was leaving shortly thereafter, and after that was not allowed to train with the team at Oklahoma.

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    Re: Hannah Cunliffe makes front page Seattle Times, and video

    In Mikes early years of coaching he was closely mentored by sprint coach Tony Veney. K, when a member of Mikes track club, was fortunate to also have private coaching sessions by coach Veney with a few members of the team. There was another long-time member of this board who helped Mike with training Hannah.

    I have only spoke with Hannah briefly this year at an indoor meet at UW, but she was very excited and happy about her move to U of O.
    In conversations when she was in high school, and even middle school, she had always said that was the university she wished to run for, collected Duck stickers, emblems etc.

    Mike is very observant about running mechanics, he noticed multiple issues with K right away... he recommended to see team chiro and it took awhile before I finally did... most of the issues were fixed right away... amazingly.

    The most impressive issue, was that K had not been able to raise her knees much more than 30 to 35 degrees... (noticed during running and high knee lifts) I always 'assumed' she just was being lazy and didn't do the high knees purposely.. but when I talked with her about it she said she had never been able to do them.

    After the first visit to the 'miracle Dr.' as Mike calls him, she got down off the Dr.'s table and immediately was able to stand in place, hands at her sides and raise each knee nearly to her chest! this, and many other small 'miracles' this Dr. performed was just one of the many things that gave me respect and trust in Mike... he has a long list of accomplished athletes.


    T-Slow... next time when you are in the area let me know, would be nice to see you again

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    Re: Hannah Cunliffe makes front page Seattle Times, and video

    Some good slow motion shots of Cunliffe in the NCAA 60m indoor finals here, race starting at 42.40

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