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    Fatigue in 200m for masters athletes

    I have a 40ish athlete preparing for the Masters Games in Sydney in 6 weeks time. We've followed a plan of short to long adding distance on as we progress and have developed speed.

    Sessions to improve our endurance as we get closer to our big competition might be a 60m flat out (8min rest) followed by 80m (10min rest) 100m (12min rest) and 120m, all at 100%. We've found these sessions have been good and pace has been maintained. We've also done sessions of shorter distances and regualr tempo.

    We've found however, compared to younger athletes in our group that we've become very fatigued in the last 20-30m of 200m races. The description is of jelly legs. Younger athletes in our group have not found this same level of fatigue.

    Is this something that that is unique to althetes as they mature.

    We've tried previosuly something like 3 x100m with short rests but the 3rd run becomes very poor technically and I'm not sure of the benefit. What d peole think.

    Do people have thoughts about improving the last 20-30m.
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    is what you are doing with them different from your other athletes?

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    John,

    Our work is identical. She is a very fit person and does everything the same. She handles the work as well as the teenage atlhetes.

    It seems when she runs the 200m she has fatigued more than the younger athletes.

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    How many 200's have you done lately?

    It could simply be age related.

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    Last summer season they ran quite a few. There season ended in april at the Australian Masters and they felt there they were finding the last 30m really tough. Yjey jad probably felt this for a while. We had one race against open athletes and she lead by over a metre at the halfway mark and probably still so with 40m to go but got tired at the end and caught on the line.

    In our winter she competed at Helsinki at the Masters Games. In the lead up we didn't run many 200m maybe only one here at home. In Helsinki they only ran a heat and a final

    I feel where others may negative split the 200m she definitely does not.

    She beleives it is an age thing but I jsut wondered if there was a pgysiological reason perhaps associated with age.

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    Interesting! - I wonder if it is common for masters age athletes to positive split the 200m.
    I have a feeling it might be. I certainly don't know any that can negative split a 200m.

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    There is a system for age-grading masters performances. A W40 100m is expected to be a certain % slower to achieve the same 'effort'. A W40 200m is expected to be a larger % slower than the 100m.

    I'm not a coach, but it sounds like you may need to start training for a longer distance, like 300m or so.

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    Speaking as a female Masters athlete, I would tell your athlete that it may be psychological but it is NOT an "age thing". I have run faster 100 and 200m times as a 45yr old than I did as a 40-44 yr old. I used to die in the last 20-30 meters, but this year I changed to a long - short program and also added a LOT of open 400m to my early season meets. After that I no longer feared dying in the 200. Don't know if this would help your runner - but it's just my 2cents.

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    I agree with Renee. I used to get the rubber at the end of a 200 also if I ran the first part too aggressively. Now with a concurrent program keeping my speed intact all year while adding some 400 specific work I can mash the last 110 of my 200 and negative split by about 4/10's. I'm 51 running 22.74 FAT so I don't believe age to be a limiting factor.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kidscoach View Post
    I'm 51 running 22.74 FAT so I don't believe age to be a limiting factor.

    That's pretty impressive considering the M50 World Record is 22.53 !! I see that you closely followed Kitkat's 400 program with great success!
    I'm not so sure that many others would be able to negative split like you can though as i would imagine the elite ranks of 200m runners at 51yo
    would be pretty small (elite according to my Australian charts for masters athletes would refer to that as around sub 25s for 200m).
    For my curiosity do you have an accurate time for 60m??

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