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    Pull Downs

    Charlie: Didn't Ben outstrip the machine? I don't see too many with weight stacks greater than 100k. Did you find any cross over benefit in the hip flexors? (holding isometrically)

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    Join Date
    Jan 2003
    Hoboken, NJ
    I Weigh 150 pounds and i go up to 210 pounds on the pulldown machine For reps of 8. So i can imagine what Ben was doing. However i use close grip and lean back.
    I think the isometric contraction of the hip flexors holding may depend on how you are sitting. The only way i can see this occuring is if you legs are at 90 degrees. I personally do not feel it in my hip flexors unless the seat is too high and my legs arent being held down firmly.


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    Originally posted by QUIKAZHELL
    However i use close grip and lean back.
    you are not getting much work out of your back, partly because of the machine, and also because you are leaning back. i'll take weighted pull ups anyday over any machine there is for back.

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    Join Date
    Jan 2003
    Hoboken, NJ
    I feel it more in my back when i arch it and lean back slightly. And i also do pullups, seated rows, and db rows.
    Im getting plenty of work out of my back.
    Thanx though.

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    Im with ESPN - no comparison between machines and chins of numerous varieties.

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    Some very interesting research on chins and pull-ups.

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    Quik, if I remember correctly, you have a pretty good bench, so I can imagine that you have a good strength/bodyweight ratio. But is 210 lbs on your lat machine really 210 lbs? How is the pulley system set up?

    If you can pull 210 for 8, you may want to try a couple of these variations of pulls:

    Sternum chin-ups, and subscapularis pull-ups. Check out this URL:

    Im curious.

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    Join Date
    Jan 2003
    Hoboken, NJ
    yes my bench is was 305. now that i am training hard again (on the track) im assuming it is around 295 as i am doing 270 for sets of 3.
    i cant be posively sure i am pulldown 210 pounds but that is what it says. But as you said each machine is set up a litttle different and some have alot of resistence. But at school i was doing 190 with no problem. So i think the 210 is probably 210. I have also done weight pullups with a 35 plate for 8 reps. So thats 185 pounds because i weigh 150. I guess its a little differnt though. Thanx for that link... when i get a chance to really look over it ill try them and let you know. It looks like good stuff.

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    Join Date
    Jan 2003
    Sacramento County
    Does it really matter how much it actually is? What I mean is if I notice I improve on this movement -pull-downs month after month in 5lbs increments (I think anyway right) is that good enough? or should I try and figure out what the weight really is?
    Also, I have found out from personal exp. that lighter amounts of pull-downs don't cross over to being able to do chins but doing chins help you do pull-downs. To a certain point anyway. I'm getting up there in weight with pull-downs and every once in a while I test my chins (weighted) and I seem to be improving on them despite not doing them anymore.
    With that being said I would think that If I only did weighted chins I would go up in both exc. more quickly...what do you guys think?
    Has anyone else come across the same thing or anything similar?

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    150lbs putting up 300 on the bench. that's one of the most impressive things i've seen from a sprinter. I weigh 150 as well and i thought thought putting up 250 was pretty good. but 300 is up there. I hope to put that up within a year or two but i'd probably weigh 160 by then.

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